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	<title>Comments on: Bell-End Du Jour</title>
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		<title>By: PatientZero</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatientZero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you, brother!  Last Sunday afternoon, I caught Pretty Woman on the tv.  After watching it, I had the same gnawing feeling that it just wasn&#039;t possible.  No one has that experience. no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, brother!  Last Sunday afternoon, I caught Pretty Woman on the tv.  After watching it, I had the same gnawing feeling that it just wasn&#8217;t possible.  No one has that experience. no one.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s anything about hookers you want to know, just ask.  But, whores are a tough lot who, for a wide variety of reasons, have made a certain moral compromise that allows them to go to an out of body state to fulfill their part of a carnal bargain.  It&#039;s why a prostitute never kisses.  It&#039;s too intimate.  (The reason the John doesn&#039;t want to has more to do with hygiene - you never know where that mouth has been.)  They run the gamut socially, financially, emotionally and intellectually.  And every one of them wants to be an actress - the ultimate escape, becoming (at least for a while) someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s anything about hookers you want to know, just ask.  But, whores are a tough lot who, for a wide variety of reasons, have made a certain moral compromise that allows them to go to an out of body state to fulfill their part of a carnal bargain.  It&#8217;s why a prostitute never kisses.  It&#8217;s too intimate.  (The reason the John doesn&#8217;t want to has more to do with hygiene &#8211; you never know where that mouth has been.)  They run the gamut socially, financially, emotionally and intellectually.  And every one of them wants to be an actress &#8211; the ultimate escape, becoming (at least for a while) someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: jack b-boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack b-boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really sure what you&#039;re saying here; your statement itself seems to be, ironically, a non-statement.

That being said, I would like to bring up Tim O&#039;Brien&#039;s perspective on truth per &quot;The Things They Carried,&quot; which I think bears some similarity to what you&#039;re saying.  In one of his stories, he wrote about how a lie can be truer than the truth, and visa versa.  O&#039;Brien gave an example in which he describes the type of story that sometimes came out of Vietnam (he is a Vietnam vet and all his writings are based on or around that experience).  He talks about the story of how a soldier threw himself on a grenade and absorbed the blast, giving his own life to save the life of his comrades.  This sort of thing did factually happen, but, to O&#039;Brien&#039;s point, to tell that as a Vietnam story is a lie because it didn&#039;t represent the truth of the Vietnam experience.

O&#039;Brien then gives an alternative story in which a soldier throws himself on a grenade to save his comrades but the grenade ends up killing everyone anyway.  And as all the soldiers lay on the ground dying, one  of them turns to the one who threw himself on the grenade and says, &quot;That was pointless.&quot;  Even though this story is a lie, it is truer than the story that actually happened.

Actually, now I think I understand what you were saying in your original post; I was just so excited to write down the Tim O&#039;Brien bit that I didn&#039;t think about what you wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really sure what you&#8217;re saying here; your statement itself seems to be, ironically, a non-statement.</p>
<p>That being said, I would like to bring up Tim O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s perspective on truth per &#8220;The Things They Carried,&#8221; which I think bears some similarity to what you&#8217;re saying.  In one of his stories, he wrote about how a lie can be truer than the truth, and visa versa.  O&#8217;Brien gave an example in which he describes the type of story that sometimes came out of Vietnam (he is a Vietnam vet and all his writings are based on or around that experience).  He talks about the story of how a soldier threw himself on a grenade and absorbed the blast, giving his own life to save the life of his comrades.  This sort of thing did factually happen, but, to O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s point, to tell that as a Vietnam story is a lie because it didn&#8217;t represent the truth of the Vietnam experience.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Brien then gives an alternative story in which a soldier throws himself on a grenade to save his comrades but the grenade ends up killing everyone anyway.  And as all the soldiers lay on the ground dying, one  of them turns to the one who threw himself on the grenade and says, &#8220;That was pointless.&#8221;  Even though this story is a lie, it is truer than the story that actually happened.</p>
<p>Actually, now I think I understand what you were saying in your original post; I was just so excited to write down the Tim O&#8217;Brien bit that I didn&#8217;t think about what you wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.vastbranch.com/wordpress/?p=202#comment-111414</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got your comment back, and I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got your comment back, and I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left a fabulous comment yesterday that does not appear!  anyway, I&#039;m interested in your musings J.  I agree I don&#039;t believe her, I think she was making it up.  I also think it&#039;s pretty sad that a woman has to turn hooker to fund a phd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a fabulous comment yesterday that does not appear!  anyway, I&#8217;m interested in your musings J.  I agree I don&#8217;t believe her, I think she was making it up.  I also think it&#8217;s pretty sad that a woman has to turn hooker to fund a phd.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Tyte</title>
		<link>http://www.vastbranch.com/wordpress/?p=202#comment-111368</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Tyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah J! I have missed your blogs!  Having skimmed through it at your house, I agree that the book seemed like total bollocks.  Maybe she was a hooker, maybe some of it was based on real incidents, but most of it felt totally fake,  It&#039;s hard to find people talking sensibly/honestly about prostitution.  its either this belle crap, or rabid feminist man-hating all sex is rape nonsense.  the truth must be darker, more complicated, more interest, and somewhere in between those two poles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah J! I have missed your blogs!  Having skimmed through it at your house, I agree that the book seemed like total bollocks.  Maybe she was a hooker, maybe some of it was based on real incidents, but most of it felt totally fake,  It&#8217;s hard to find people talking sensibly/honestly about prostitution.  its either this belle crap, or rabid feminist man-hating all sex is rape nonsense.  the truth must be darker, more complicated, more interest, and somewhere in between those two poles.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Guardian article is interesting, (though of course not as erudite as your musings!) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/17/belle-de-jour-tanya-gold</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Guardian article is interesting, (though of course not as erudite as your musings!) <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/17/belle-de-jour-tanya-gold" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/17/belle-de-jour-tanya-gold</a></p>
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